Tuesday, February 26, 2019

Offering a corrective to parochial philosophy

Greek gods were assholes, which might explain the rise of rationality and the birth of Western philosophy there. And also Plato.
Do listen to episode 109 of The Seen and the Unseen, where I am joined by philosopher Rebecca Goldstein (@platobooktour): https://t.co/O4OshZh2yb

"I will go out on a limb and say you cannot properly understand Plato unless you have read some Heraclitus and Parmenides and thought hard about them."
Dr Angie Hobbs (@drangiehobbs) recommends the best works of presocratic philosophy. #ancientphilosophy

"You must explain what it is for a life to have value: until you can do that your ethical theories are empty and void."
MM McCabe, Emeritus Professor of Ancient Philosophy at King's College London, picks the best books on Socrates.

"How can we show whether the happiest life is going to be the just life or the unjust life? If we’re going to try to answer that about the individual mind or soul, let’s look at the city in big letters, like a model for the soul."
The best books on #Plato https://t.co/Kq5pz0hVbP

The Best Books on Aristotle, chosen by @edithmayhall, author of Aristotle's Way @five_books     https://t.co/oqMtYuymQL

"Philosophers, and in particular the Stoics, were persecuted by several Roman emperors. They really didn’t like this constant reminder that you should be doing better than you are doing."
@mpigliucci looks at classical #stoicism and its modern resurgence. https://t.co/br6vIcPx7U

"First of all, outside the New Testament, St Augustine is the most influential person in Western Christianity by far. Secondly, he was a wonderful, wonderful writer & a deeply passionate man." https://t.co/RhNxEaUcCH

"If you go back to Hume, Locke or Descartes, you find that they weren’t writing for professionals in university, they were writing for their educated peers. Every educated mind should be engaged with the great questions."
A C Grayling: Ideas That Matter https://t.co/Y5Qi1S3bEm

"Kant is interested in the limits to what we can know; he’s interested in the limits to what we can use pure reason to ascertain; he’s interested in the limits to what we can even think about."
Professor Adrian Moore recommends the best books on #Kant

"I think it’s the greatest work of philosophy ever written by anybody. And I’ve worked on Plato, Aristotle, Descartes; I teach Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant; and I have studied Nietzsche, Heidegger, Wittgenstein."
Stephen Houlgate makes the case for #Hegel. https://t.co/jAv31iI4Dh
"It’s a mistake to think you could read Marx as a scientist or an economist without understanding the Hegelian framework of his thought. That’s why I chose to begin with Hegel."
@PeterSinger examines the best works of 19th century philosophy.

“Much of what Marx was doing has similarities with what we do in political writing today, which also involves a lot of parody and satire. ”
The best books on Marx & Marxism, a #readinglist by Terrell Carver (@TerrellCarver) https://t.co/6MjtEXTpgI

“There’s something powerfully repulsive about Nietzsche”: Simon Critchley (@CritchleyUpdate) introduces the landscape of continental philosophy #WorldPhilosophyDay #readinglist https://t.co/9VcIfZ7LZj

“Those who by-pass Wittgenstein do so to their own detriment, for they are neglecting the most original philosopher of our times."
Professor Peter Hacker examines the life and thought of Ludwig #Wittgenstein https://t.co/zC912hRVGI

"One of the great oversights when we talk about classical American philosophy is not noticing how brilliant Margaret Fuller was. Thoreau, Emerson, and Poe all considered her probably the most intelligent woman of their day."
John Kaag on US Philosophy. https://t.co/1vyUmbF33t

"I think that pragmatism is a philosophical movement that dominates philosophy in America from the early 1900s to the present day, and that Quine sits very prominently in the story."
From CS Peirce to WV Quine, Prof. Robert Talisse examines pragmatism. https://t.co/XQq5G4L51N

"Mengzi offers a conception of human nature, the virtues, and ethical cultivation that is a plausible alternative to Aristotle."
Offering a corrective to parochial philosophy departments, @BryanVanNorden discusses the best works of world philosophy

"Metaphysics came back. It reappeared sometime in the 1960s or 70s and now it’s one of the dominant areas of philosophy and people are just doing metaphysics unashamedly," says @timcrane102 https://t.co/pNcphYG4Yq

"In chemistry you might learn about different kinds of chemical changes. In metaphysics you ask ‘What is change? How is change possible?’"
Philosopher Tim Crane demystifies the field of analytic metaphysics. https://t.co/eHqWwFg9rG

"I don’t see the subject as restricted to nerdy philosophical papers in refereed journals. Some of the most important contributions have been literary."
British philosopher Nigel Warburton (@philosophybites) picks the best introductions to philosophy. https://t.co/144ZVaPrRz

"We mustn’t assume that our intuitive picture of the mind is correct. If we want to understand the mind as it really is, then we must go beyond armchair reflection and engage with the science of the mind and brain."
@keithfrankish on philosophy of mind.

“Imagine how you would design society if your enemy were to decide your place in it”
Jonathan Wolff of the @BlavatnikSchool on what he considers to be the five best works of political philosophy. https://t.co/2IFxokQFce

"Darwin's idea, that the same processes occurring slowly and steadily today also have been active throughout Earth history, slowly but steadily shaping the landscape, is known as uniformitarianism."
Happy Darwin Day. Here's @adammaloof on Earth History: https://t.co/FiapqPLw33

ICYMI: Once every 10,000 years, a black hole in a galaxy reveals itself by ripping apart a passing star. These tidal disruption events have given astronomers a new way to map the hidden cosmos. https://t.co/R3NughPo2h

Virgin Galactic reaches space again – this time with a passenger https://t.co/k9SGi3SOYm https://t.co/qR2NVxrvJN

Victoria-ORF Kolkata inter-university debate — Has social media opened up the public space? https://t.co/2IGgix1mf7 https://t.co/YxQ2POqlq7

Social science researchers who want to study the internet in India using data mining and analytic techniques are challenged by constraints in #access, and the availability of #bigdata https://t.co/eIZ8HxrEoy

Indian literature and Indian Philosophy both will flourish by embracing the ideas of "Yeats".  - Prof. Margaret Mills Harper @MakrandParanspe https://t.co/TqA5GGVQmc

Because she inspires lust and sexuality in men, she rules over childbirth and midwives. She is lust, which is not seen as bad or sinful in Nahua, or Aztec philosophy, but rather as something potentially dangerous and disordering. Rather, sex and sexuality are sacred. https://t.co/TVbAeKwU6i
Tlazolteotl, who is also known as Ixquina, the Filth Eater. She is the Teotl of disorder, of trash, of chaos and excess. However, she is also rules over sexuality. She is unordered nature, which is what is meant by Tlazolli; she represents chaos which awaits order. https://t.co/fNK66qP8l1

the Orchid and the rOse: Bruno Ganz, Gary Gutting, and Roderick MacFarquhar https://t.co/aWwcgyZYJQ
Because Thou Art: Art ought to be an enabler https://t.co/K7AWNqsMTC 
Savitri Era: I won't allow anyone to wash my feet https://t.co/BeOE0J36sm by Tusar Nath Mohapatra @NathTusar

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Saturday, February 23, 2019

Vedantic philosophy in a political context

Knowledge, consciousness and religious conversion in Lonergan and Aurobindo - Page 179Michael T. McLaughlin - 2003 - 318 pages
Aurobindo's monism in which the One differentiates itself in time and space (extension) as finite souls in the infinite has many similarities with Schelling in his work Bruno. He refers to this process of differentiation of the One as ...

Debashish Banerji, ‎Makarand R. Paranjape - 2016 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
... stage when the autopoietic entity achieves a state of functional integration where its elements express their powers not merely as parts of the whole but as co-adapting superpositionalities of the whole. In comparison, Sri Aurobindo's monism ...
H. L. Kalia - 2002 - ‎Preview
... it has given us a new outlook on the world; it has set his stamp on one of the major stages in the development of planetology It was a kind of integral vision of the reality, similar to that of Aurobindo, but without falling into Aurobindo's monism.
Jan Feys - 1973 - ‎Snippet view
This more literal rendering of Advaita underlines the absence of any dual principle, which corresponds to the negative aspect of Aurobindo's monism. However, Aurobindo himself does not use that term to characterise his system. 26 There is ...
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Hence Ignorance is a form of Knowledge, Pain a form of Bliss, and Death of Life : these paradoxes find their metaphysical justification in Sri Aurobindo's monism. The transformation of death into life, and not death's elimination, squares best ...
Kolappa Pillay Kanakasabhapathi Pillay - 1957 - ‎Snippet view
But such a relation is possible only when a duality between consciousness and unconsciousness is assumed, which assumption would be contrary to Aurobindo's monism. Mind, which is supposed to be a link between vitalised matter on the ...
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61 It was a kind of integral vision of the reality, similar to that of Aurobindo, but without falling into Aurobindo's monism. Such an idea cannot be simply transliterated, but needs deep study since "to be content to transliterate is merely illiterate.
David Scott - 2014 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
The first full introduction to Simondon's seminal work. A chapter-by-chapter commentary takes you through the text of Psychic and Collective Individuation, clarifying its complex terminology and structure.
Sri Aurobindo - 2007 - ‎No preview - ‎More editions
The writing of this book has afforded him pleasure in his leisure moments, and that pleasure would be much increased if he knew that the perusal of it would create any bond of sympathy between himself and the angling community in general.
Ted Honderich - 2015 - ‎Preview - ‎More editions
Eighteen of the world's most eminent philosophers of recent years tackle central questions of philosophy in this collection of the prestigious annual lectures given at the Royal Institute of Philosophy in London.

Aurobindo has tried to interpret some of the spiritual concepts of Vedantic philosophy in a political context. ... Advaitism, or the conception of a monistic spiritual absolute, has been considered in modern Indian thought as the foundation of a ...

Thursday, December 14, 2017

Mental aspect in the fundamental particles

Graham Harman on Slavoj Žižek
Reading Zizek's The Incontinence of the Void. Insightful and entertaining, but the mere dismissal of the new realisms isn't helpful at all.
Does Zizek really think Hegel and Lacan said it all, and that he has nothing more to learn? That's a purely defensive posture.
Z.'s youthful energy and productivity continue to amaze. Would be nice to see more willingness on his part to argue basic issues.
I think he's done real philosophy and will do more. But no need to dump on those younger and pretend they're making child-like mistakes. https://t.co/2IDt1ECQQ4
I'm speaking from specific disappointment over at beginning of his new book. If "racing the clock," why waste clock time with cheap shots?
It doesn't look that way. He seems unable to view realism as anything more than a silly recursion to pre-Lacanian thought. Real contempt.
Paul Livingston's NDPR review of my co-authored book with DeLanda: https://t.co/ogDcKPWEed
Flat ontology doesn't mean that everything gets equal status in the end, only equal status at the beginning.
Or rather, that's true of OOO, with its difference btwn. real/sensual. Latour is more a case where everything remains equal, qua *actor.*

We are pleased to announce Prof. Graham Harman as Editor-in-Chief of "Open Philosophy".

[Christoph Antweiler reasserts cross-cultural commonalities for life and co-existence approach humanity in its entirety, understanding the world less as a globe, with an emphasis on differences, but as a planet, from a vantage point open to commonalities.] https://t.co/eyTyh0qODE

[Any realistic cosmopolitanism must proceed from an understanding of humankind as one entity without requiring us to re-design cultures to fit on with some sort of global template.] https://t.co/66RMuinFOA

[Boyer provides a new picture of cultural transmission that draws on the pragmatics of human communication, the constructive nature of memory in human brains, and human motivation for group formation and cooperation.] https://t.co/c3OnSmd8ti

As the Mother put it, Sri Aurobindo, the deceased master, gave her a vision: “India has become the symbolic representation of all the difficulties of modern mankind India will be the land of its resurrection — the resurrection to a higher mind and truer life.” The future of humankind, in other words, would be shaped in India, in a ...

Daily Mail-12-Dec-2017
He was restless and searching for the purpose of life. Sri Aurobindo had left his body in 1950, but Frederick was fortunate to meet the Mother (Mirra Alfassa), Sri Aurobindo'sspiritual partner and successor: 'She changed my life by shifting my consciousness.' In a sense, Frederick had found not only his home but also soul.

The Asian Age-07-Dec-2017
From the beginning, Sri Aurobindo entrusted the Mother with full material and spiritual charge of the ashram. Everything in the ashram is her creation; every initiative draws inspiration from her and moves towards her vision. Interestingly, the Mother was well acquainted with the Baha'i Faith, having met 'Abdu'l-Baha (son of ...

Dear Joe, Kashyap,  and Vinod ji,

[1] Vinod: Another related issue is if a physical structure is not defined and describable by its physical functions, is there any other way to define/describe the structure?

McCard: Agreed, Ram has not been explicit, but, I think it fair to say he would agree to the following: Joe wrote: Physical structure can be defined as a pattern of physical energy. 

Vimal: In the eDAM, one of the important postulates is that the information is the same in both aspects, so they are inseparable. In other words, whatever is going on physical aspect is also going on in the mental aspect of a state of the information in an entity. Ontology of the aspects is the ontology of information. If viewed from 3pp, the 3pp-physical aspect is physical structure and physical function. If viewed from 1pp, the 1pp-mental aspect is mental structure and mental function. So, what is wrong if we say 1pp-mental function = 3pp-physical function if the information is the same and it is just viewing the same information from two different perspectives 1pp or 3pp.

[2] Vasavada: Let me jump little bit in your debate with Ram! A man and a woman feel attraction to each other by looking (reflections of light from each other and their eyes processing and somehow converting into mental aspect.) Similarly about sound waves of speech. Now an electron and a proton feel attraction by exchanging photons. This is quantum mechanics. If there is a very primitive amount of consciousness related to QM, then this process could be similar. We do not know whether consciousness has anything to do with QM or not. But we cannot rule out this out rightly! So there could be a little bit of mental aspect (most likely hidden to us) in the fundamental particles.

Vimal: I agree with Kashyap. You may like to look at dual-aspect panpsychism, which hypothesizes that inert entities also have some rudiment functional sub-aspect of consciousness (see also  2009f); (Vimal, 2010d)). Let us not degrade inert entities because they are also manifestations of dual-aspect unmanifested Brahman (primal entity). Vinodji argues that Brahman is a privileged entity; I argue for democracy; his argument is related to master-slave relationship, which is old now and obsolete; my argument is related to equality, i.e., “All (entities) in One (Brahman) and One is All”.


Kind regards,
Rām Lakhan Pāndey Vimal, Ph.D.
Amarāvati-Hīrāmaṇi Professor (Research)
Vision Research Institute, Physics, Neuroscience, & Consciousness Research Dept.
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Saturday, April 29, 2017

In struggles we can very well come together and aid each other

Hegel's philosophy is hardly obscure. The vast literature on Hegel that exists and continues to rapidly expand, especially in recent times, speaks to the richness and relevance of his thought to current issues in philosophy and science. I admit Hegel is subtle but is certainly obscure to those who follow the predominant mode of analytical thinking that characterizes modern science and philosophy.  Hegel calls such thinking abstract understanding. There are, however, more rational and concrete ways of thinking, and to follow Hegel's thought means to learn that.

Dr. Rappaport claims that a cut or boundary is a sign which is identical to the observer or person for whom the sign has a significance. This appears to be true for him on the basis of his KB logic. I counter his argument by stating that if this is true on the basis of his logic then it destroys the meaning of sign and its interpreter, implying therefore his logic is defective.

Later in his email he mentions singularity as an example of a sign that is an identity. Supposedly he means that it therefore includes within it the person or observer who refers to that sign as a singularity. In my reply I may have misunderstood this and thought he was developing a process out of the singularity into the following items he lists [see his original email below]. I am awaiting his reply on that issue.

Regarding Peirce's quote, I agree with you that he was not questioning the existence of a sign as an object, but claiming that a sign can be considered to be such for an interpreter only. Signs exist only for persons for whom they have a significance. It is generally acknowledged that Saussure further clarifies this. Whether or not objects exist in general without a subjective observer is another question. To assume that to be the case is based on a rational conception of permanence that cannot be based on pure empirical experience or consciousness, since it makes a claim about the possibility of existence without being observed or in consciousness. 

The arguments put forth on this list regarding the fundamentality of consciousness represent a misconception as they are based on reflective understanding rather than reason. Hopefully they may come to consider and understand the arguments against that view as presented in my email and article that explains Self and Reason as being beyond consciousness [see Beyond the Modern Monolith of Consciousness]

Thank you for your interest and inquiry.
B Madhava Puri, Ph. D.
Apr 28, 2017
BHAKTI VEDANTA INSTITUTE – of Spiritual Culture & Science

priyedarshi jetli Apr 29, 2017
Fair enough. I have not followed the discussion so your comments in that context are something I should not comment upon. 

As for Hegel, it is not that I am ignorant of Hegel. I took a course on Hegel and was totally taken up by his Phenomenology of the Spirit. But when I tried to read it again, years later, I find it obscure. As a student of philosophy I am not so interested in popularity of philosophers but on trying to understand the primary works of the philosophers. This is what I do with Plato as well. 

What you keep calling logic, is really some type of ontology and not logic with my understanding of what 'logic' is. Logic is mainly about inferences. It does not have much to do with duality as we have multivalued and fuzzy logics as well. But what remains common and what Hegel uses is inferences. 

You say "Hegel calls such thinking abstract understanding." By such thinking you mean analytic philosophy and science. Do you mean to say that Hegel is concerned with concrete reality. To me there could be nothing more abstract than Hegel's absolute. Is he nominalist as opposed to realism in philosophy and science which accepts the existence of universals like the number two? The only thing I understand in Hegel is the thesis-antithesis-synthesis account which he took from Kant's Critique of Pure Reason. Othewise he and other German Idealists distorted Kant and took him in a direction he would never have turned.


Dr Shilpi Saxena Apr 29, 2017
Respected Priyedarshi Ji

Your email content is reflecting two gross ways for understanding, one is mainly for Objective approach and other is Subjective.

From a purely professional level Science would not progress if it will not approached with specialization. But we need objective approach only for our livelihood but after achieving our professional positions like Professor and Scientist we also need wholistic approach and this approach is not exclusive. What way we can do real good to our true being is also a part of real scientific study. Analytical (Objective) study and theoretical (Subjective) study both should go together then only we could understand the whole reality.

How science can be wholistic if it excludes the study of Scientist (soul) and souls of all souls (Supreme God)? And as far as I know this is also the main purpose of ‘Science and Scientist-2017’ Conference: http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2017

We as finite being cannot understand and represent the Whole that accommodate everything in it. Only Absolute can Harmonize everything. Therefore, we have to change our concept from self-centered exploitation to the God-centered dedication. One process is to find the root and next process to water the root (Srimad Bhagavad-Gita 5.4).

I am planning to submit a paper for this conference and would like to present the same if accepted. Hope that you and other list members of this group can also join this event and we can have some fruitful dialogue at Kathmandu during the conference.

With regards
Dr Shilpi Saxena, MRSC, Ph.D, FICCE 

Edwards, Jonathan Apr 29, 2017
Dear Whit,
I think the idea that laws have to exist before the Big Bang is a category mistake. It is a confusion of cause with reason (Leibniz’s term for law). Causes occur in space and time but reasons do not. They are the necessities or probabilities of causes occurring when they do. There would be no meaning to a reason ‘existing before’ the Big Bang. Positing reasons bears no relation to positing an agent God. Looking for an external source of reasons inevitably leads to infinite regress.

I am also doubtful about a universe existing but being unknown being a ‘meaningless' concept. One has to remember that ‘meaning’ and ‘knowledge of’ are very complex relations that involve a co-variance between certain patterns of signs generated within a complex system like a brain and ‘referent’ dynamic patterns in a distal environment. Prior to the emergence of life there would be no knowledge or meaning but that is not to say that there would not be experience or what Leibniz calls perception and what one might include in the most general definition of consciousness. I agree that where there is no perception there is no meaningful existence. But knowledge is a very subtle and probably self-contradictory concept in certain respects.

I agree that there is an anthropic argument that we must live in a universe that allows the emergence of ‘knowledge' because we ‘know’ (however shaky that concept may be) about it. But a long time back nothing did know about the universe that we still enjoy.


Dear Jonathan,

OK let us not use the word 'reductionism", if you don't like it. But is the journey of Physics from the macro level to molecular, atomic, nucleus, protons, neutrons, quarks, electronic one and in different flavors does not amount to a long sequence of understanding the smaller to smaller level mechanism, from one level to still a lower deeper level. And who knows that quarks and electrons are an end itself? Similarly, understanding the forces of nature from macro-Newtonian one to intermolecular, inter -atomic, internuclear and electronic, gluonic intranuclear one is another example in Physics for understanding the working of nature from one level down the other level.The hypothesis of dark energy and dark matter to account for the motion of galaxies and clusters is another example of going from one level of mechanism to another mechanism. If in future, some empirical evidence pours in for the existence of dark matter/dark energy, further questions may arise for the genesis of dark energy /matter. No doubt, this may lead to an infinite or very long regress but how we are sure that nature is limited to the extent we know up to the date or nature is not infinite or comprises a long chain of layered structure?

To state that there is epistemic evidence that beyond quantum level there are no mechanisms amounts to a recognition that quantum reality is the end of ontology and reality in itself. Only about a hundred years ago, quantum level stopped till atoms. Nothing was known about electrons, protons, neutrons and quarks.Even within 100 years,  string theories in Planckian and sub-Planckian regime have come out. This is another issue that as on date there is no way out to verify such theories either due to limitations of technology or these theories itself could be wrong. So to work an assumption that quantum level is the end in itself appears to me to as trivialization of the whole issue.

Then there is no evidence that reality of nature as found thru Physics is an end to itself nevertheless the fact that Physics is an excellent tool to understand the reality up to the ends discovered by it, in quite cogent intellectual terms as well as it provides empirical evidence for the same. However, while emphasizing the importance of Physics in terms of providing framework for intellectual understanding and of empirical evidence, we should not ignore the fact that intellectual comprehension and empirical evidence may not be the final tools for ascertaining more deeper layers or ultimate layer of nature or reality

By your exchange of emails with you, I have clarified on one aspect that a wave is random excitation of a field by a quantum of action as randomly distributed. Even if I may set aside the issues of the ontology, nature, and genesis of the quantum of action and  field, still  I find it difficult grasp intuitively many aspects of  a wave by the random excitation of a field by the quantum of action as elaborated below: 

A quantum of action is a distinct indivisible dynamic event. Since it is distinct,  at one moment of time, it will appear at one point in space. Next moment it will appear at another point of space though in a random manner. Moment of time and point in space could go down to Planck's scale. But time to shift for the quantum of action from one to another point in space can't go 'down to Planck's scale since information can't travel at speeds more than the speed of light. Random excitation of a field due to the quantum of action, perceived as a wave, spread out at the rate of speed of light C. So within 1 sec, a  quantum of action should randomly  appear at  all the points of space within a volumetric  area covered by a distance of 3,00,000 Km and that too when quantum of action can't propagate at more than C.? If it could not be, how effect of  a wave is equally perceptible  in all its totality at all points of space at one moment of time within a volume as limited by C. For example, the message, which I am sending to you can be detected equally in all its totality at all the points of space within a volumetric area of space as defined by the speed of light.

So above is the problem for the formation of a wave (excitation of a field) from distinctiveness to continuity or divisibility to indivisibility with the concept of a distinct quantum of action which defies my intuitive and intellectual understanding.
Vinod Sehgal 

priyedarshi jetli Apr 28, 2017
That is very definitive. Berkeley was a clever philosopher but on close examinations, even lesser minds than the lesser minds you refer to, meaning my mind  can see that all his arguments against materialism beg the question. Neither does he have any positive argument to establish idealism. If you find one in the Three Dialogues or in the Principles or anywhere else please explain it to a lesser mind like mine. In fact I am less than a lesser mind as I don't have a mind, only a brain, which some supporters of Berkeleian idealism believe only exists in the mind. Now that is surely LOL.

Debashis Banerji Apr 29, 2017
I follow these learnings with interest...as a student, learning about some life processes, dna on and so on, i feel that probably, a convenient way to understand natural processes as, evolution, is to learn from nature itself. Thus, typical darwinian thought proposes, evolution through selection of the fittest. However, if we see the way organelles work in a unicellular organism and how cells of organs work in an organism, we may arrive at a different understanding.
In organisms, various signals regulate the cell cycles of different organs, to ensure, survival and later reproduction of the organism. There is a beautiful social control...all cells survive to serve the whole and as per nature's design, get replaced by prer servers. So, in nature, the governing phenomenon seems to be survival of the 'earnest' and not the 'fittest'. In unicellular organisms we have organelles coexisting, in multicellular organisms we have organs coexisting, as also, in a climatic climax forest, different species coexisting. So, variations which promote optimal earnest coexistence probably helped in evolutionary changes. Actually survival of the fittest can be fatal. In humans, cells which disobey cell cycle signals, continue to divide and result into benign tumours and then after mteastasis lead to malignant tumours...cancer and death. !!!

Ádám Kun Apr 29, 2017
Dear Debashis Banerji,

Survival of the fittest does not mean, that it has to be cruel or destructive toward others.
In the examples of organelles and cells inside our body, it is the unicellular organism and the multicellular body which maximizes its fitness by controlling its organelles and constituent parts. Those part were individuals in the evolutionary past, but now they are part of a new whole, a new evolutionary unit (an eukaryotic cell or a multicellular body).
Certain organisms maximize their fitness by cooperating, or by being mutualist toward other organism. So in the end we see a lot of positive interaction in Nature. The phrase "struggle for existence" (by Darwin) might be better than the survival of the fittest (by Herbert Spencer), as in struggles we can very well come together and aid each other.

best wishes,

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